There are mental health issues and there are psychopathic murderers -- Faz d. Hoo 03/06/2018 5:08PM
...as long as Psychiatrists are reimbursed at or below Pediatrician rates -- Tuckahokie 03/06/2018 5:06PM
I hope that someday we treat mental health no differently than physical -- HoosInLondon? 03/06/2018 3:41PM
I'd like to know if people were more (or less) healthy mentally in periods -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 4:46PM
People like that were either committed to mental institutions or simply -- Faz d. Hoo 03/06/2018 5:15PM
I'm not really talking about the extremes, though. I'm talking more about -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 5:38PM
Here is a better response (link) -- Faz d. Hoo 03/06/2018 8:47PM
Lots of people turned to alcohol -- Faz d. Hoo 03/06/2018 7:47PM
Doesn’t have to be either or -- Simeon 03/06/2018 12:27PM
The only time we talk about mental health is in relation to mass shootings -- WahooMatt05 03/06/2018 1:18PM
Australia didn't get rid of guns, though. There are more guns there now -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 5:31PM
Put restrictions on the type of guns you can own -- KCHoo 03/06/2018 8:27PM
That really wouldn’t impact suicide rates, though. ** -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 10:16PM
You wouldn’t think so. Australia seems like a pretty happy place overalll. ** -- KCHoo 03/07/2018 6:29PM
An interesting question to ask is...although Australia's suicides declined -- Hoo23 03/06/2018 2:17PM
Suicide is commonly a crime of opportunity. Someone who doesn't have a gun -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:34PM
I suppose that is why Japan has a suicide rate almost double that of the US ** -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 3:36PM
That doesn't make a point at all. If Japan had guns everywhere, they would -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:43PM
How about unrelenting pressure to succeed in school, and at work? ** -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 3:39PM
You mean cultural issues may play role? Who would have guessed? -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 3:41PM
Sadly, two young men we knew well did just that -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 3:10PM
WV teachers granted the pay increase they demanded. -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 3:30PM
All for broader efforts to address mental health -- Simeon 03/06/2018 1:59PM
I'm not necessarily in favor of that -- WahooMatt05 03/06/2018 2:07PM
I don't think it's a scapegoat as a frustration that these people aren't -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 3:48PM
Mental health issues are not the major factor in mass shootings -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 1:04PM
So are you saying that it's just a coincidence most mass shootings were -- Hoo23 03/07/2018 12:53PM
I’m sure there’s some truth to that- people can disagree on the numbers -- Simeon 03/06/2018 1:37PM
So you really believe that someone willing to kill multiple people -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 1:29PM
One can be disturbed, evil, or violent without being mentally ill, and most -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 1:43PM
Are you really that naive and idiotic to believe that someone willing -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 1:54PM
You seem like a moron who hasn't figured out he's not a doctor. ** -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:29PM
I figured you couldn't come back with a proper counter. Typical and boring. ** -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 2:40PM
The mindless stupidity of an armchair physician gets the response it merits ** -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:45PM
You mean the fact that you haven't been able to give one counter argument -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 2:50PM
Dude. The point is you keep talking about what constitutes "mental illness -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:57PM
You don't see a difference between ordinary acts of violence, say, hitting -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 3:34PM
.....and mental illness can be involved in either case or not. -- Chuck Taylor 03/06/2018 3:41PM
The point is either can be the result of a multitude of reasons. -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:41PM
But most of the high profile mass shootings are planned well in advance. -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 4:21PM
What's your level of training to give that expert opinion dude? Of course -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 3:08PM
If I understand your point, it must be -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 3:15PM
Another potential issue is that responsible gun owners could become very -- Tuckahokie 03/06/2018 3:23PM
I'm not the one making up my own definition of mental illness, dumb ass. -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:11PM
You are completely clueless and clearly uneducated. You've had your -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 3:14PM
Clearly. You owned this debate. Even redefined a medical term. -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:24PM
Again, having mental health issues that should block you from passing a -- Hoodafan 03/06/2018 3:42PM
He has argued time and again that anyone who commits murder is insane. -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:44PM
And here I thought is was just because you were breathing... ** -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 4:00PM
Well that and he insulted my Hillary doll. That's some line-steppin' shit -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 4:04PM
Did you think this post would surprise anyone? :-) ** -- Hoodafan 03/06/2018 4:11PM
Mental illness or mental/emotional trauma, yes. But diagnosed vs. -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 2:14PM
That I agree with 100%. I believe we have to do a better job of diagnosing -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 2:41PM
And yet virtually all the high profile mass shootings in recent history -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 1:52PM
So you are directly contradicting the linked article and virtually -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 2:13PM
I think he said "high-profile" ** -- hoothat 03/06/2018 2:23PM
Yes. I can read but thanks so much for your help ** -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 2:28PM
Then why did you not address his statement? -- hoothat 03/06/2018 2:34PM
I did. ** -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 4:33PM
And yet you didn't ** -- hoothat 03/06/2018 4:35PM
Well, there you go again. attempting to misdirect -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 4:36PM
YOU tried to redirect it. It's what poor debaters do. ** -- hoothat 03/06/2018 4:38PM
Then why'd you say that, chief? Who are you, man, Isaac fucking Newton? -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:37PM
Lol, you're cute. ** -- hoothat 03/06/2018 2:39PM
Can you name a mass murderer from recent history who had not -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 2:19PM
Vegas, Orlando, San Beradino, Dylan Roofzanski, etc. -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:28PM
Paddock (psychotropic drugs), Orlando (unknown because he was never -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 3:07PM
Roof took an opioid for recreational purposes and Klebold took nothing at -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:21PM
Ummm, Roof was taking Suboxone -- hoothat 03/06/2018 2:38PM
A painkiller, dude. One a neo nazi. You're really reaching now. -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:47PM
It's not a painkiller, dude. -- hoothat 03/06/2018 3:05PM
Keep reaching. As usual, you're clueless. -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:09PM
Umm, I k ow what suboxone is... -- hoothat 03/06/2018 3:23PM
Bingo! Enjoy your cigar -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 3:35PM
Is that sarcasm? -- hoothat 03/06/2018 3:43PM
Not at all. -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 4:00PM
I've witnessed my OD'd niece fighting with an EMT crew trying to administer -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 4:42PM
Sorry that your family is dealing with that. ** -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 6:08PM
It's been an interesting journey. Mid-30s,PhD level educator, married with -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 6:16PM
Didn't intend to use a blanket statement -- hoothat 03/06/2018 4:05PM
Do you know it has no link to violence at all and wasn't even prescribed -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:35PM
I am saying the guy had a few screws loose -- hoothat 03/06/2018 3:50PM
Meh...he's just a common junkie. Don't believe me, just ask RQ. ** -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 6:03PM
Okay 3 things.1) answer my effing question for once; 2) show me where he -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 2:27PM
1. Which effing quesition? 2. Who are you talking about? 3. I didn't say -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 3:16PM
Dude your posts are right there ** -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 4:31PM
You have lost it. ** -- hoothat 03/06/2018 4:37PM
Spot on ** -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 1:54PM
There's also the issue of actual behavior -- Beerman 03/06/2018 1:44PM
Read the article I linked below in the thread ** -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 1:35PM
That sounds like a philosophical position -- Beerman 03/06/2018 1:32PM
Primarily obsessional obsessive compulsive disorder is a medically defined -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 1:48PM
There you go. Beliefs are philosophical -- Beerman 03/06/2018 1:57PM
Social anxiety disorder...general anxiety or depression has led to -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 2:03PM
I'm not arguing that... -- Beerman 03/06/2018 2:10PM
I'm confused, then what are you arguing for? That we don't expand on the -- Hoodafan 03/06/2018 2:52PM
I'm taking issue with the first post I responded to in this thread -- Beerman 03/06/2018 2:59PM
Personally I'm fine with chalking someone up to being bat chit crazy if -- Hoodafan 03/06/2018 3:18PM
Personally, I would -- Beerman 03/06/2018 3:31PM
Exactly. The legal definition is based on "knowing right from wrong". -- HowieT3 03/06/2018 1:39PM
Would being a sociopath not be counted? Because I would think that has to -- Hoodafan 03/06/2018 1:45PM
I think the point is "being a sociopath" isn't a mental illness. It just -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:52PM
But you can be clinically diagnosed as one. Or a psychopath. Or having -- Hoodafan 03/06/2018 3:07PM
I'd be curious as to the mass shootings that did not involve mental illness -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 1:15PM
There is certainly a difference between diagnosed and undiagnosed, and -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 1:55PM
Noticed that as well. So I searched for the source doc -- hoothat 03/06/2018 1:44PM
There are other links in that article -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 1:33PM
Yeah, I suspect there was some selective statistics going on there wrt -- Hoodafan 03/06/2018 1:28PM